Mega bug that needs to be addressed fast.

Hello,
I've reported this bug previously, here we go again.
Playing DS strategy i move 22 infantry, 1 general, 7 helicopters to Madrid.
Red player counter attacks me, with 7 tanks, 9 infantry, and a general.
I watch the battle, Helicopters took down the tanks, killed couple of infantry, and as soon as the fight infantry vs infantry start, my army gets 1 HUGE headshot and instantly dies.

In DS your infantry has a attack of 4. If he plays PD, then his infantry has a defence of 7 (with his general even more). You will lose 2:1 then.

Napísal Hugosch, 14.03.2012 at 02:54

In DS your infantry has a attack of 4. If he plays PD, then his infantry has a defence of 7 (with his general even more). You will lose 2:1 then.

He's rank 0, it's unlikely he even has general defence. I would also assume he is using tank general since he is using tanks and it's the default strategy.

edit: confirmed he was not PD by favorite strats at time posting; It is Tank General and Naval Commander only. (note that TG weakens infantry so this result might be bugged, but I'm not sure.)

Without the general its still 7 vs 4. I won't be so sure about the Tank General. Players with PD also play with tanks and i don't think a rank0 player is using default strategies.

Still, T.Atheist lost very much, but i won't say its a bug.

I got +1 general upgrade infantry attack, +1 defense for all units. I wouldn't lose 2:1 i watched the fight, in the battle phase, how can it not be bug when my army just died off in 1 shot? 23 units died off in 1 shot.

Plus he attacked me, after my helicopters died the only units he had was 5 infantry 1 general, i had 22 infantry and general, i was defending, so clearly my defense was huge compared to his infantry attack.
I should've won that not 2:1, but 10:1

As you can see on the picture, my attack on Madrid was canceled, because he attacked me, so i'm defending this fight, with +1 infantry attack, and +1 defense to all units, i highly doubt 5 infantry and 1 general in attack can defeat defending 22 infantry + general.

Ok this is just odd.......... 10:1 is super weird. BUt I'm guessing it was because of the Helicopters?

Napísal Tundy, 14.03.2012 at 23:39

That happen to me too.
i was defending Russia with 7 helicopters, 6 infantry and 1 general. (i have my general +1 stack defense +1 ifantry attack update)
and a rank 3 with 7 tanks and 2 infantry just kill my helicopters and my infantry and general, he was using Tank General
was a fight with a ratio of 5 helicopters/1 tank and i get destroyed. i just kill the 2 infantry and 1 tank.
maybe Tank General vs Desert Storm is OP.


(it happen today too)

I don't find much sense of what your saying, 7 tanks, with 9 attack each, how come you kill 1 tank and 2 infantry, when his attacking, his tanks shoot first.
And until they all die, you can't fight the infantry, i'm quite curious how you come to kill that infantry.
Anyway, any admin/mod news of my report?

Napísal Hugosch, 14.03.2012 at 02:54

In DS your infantry has a attack of 4. If he plays PD, then his infantry has a defence of 7 (with his general even more). You will lose 2:1 then.

Napísal T.Atheist, 14.03.2012 at 13:35

As you can see on the picture, my attack on Madrid was canceled, because he attacked me, so i'm defending this fight, with +1 infantry attack, and +1 defense to all units, i highly doubt 5 infantry and 1 general in attack can defeat defending 22 infantry + general.

Since he didn't had any upgrades and was only rank 0, even if he plays PD which he didn't as Fruit suggested, i still have +1 defense which makes it 7 defense.
Further more, i was the one defending that fight, so his infantry had 3 attack (playing Tank general), 5 infantry x3 attack, 15 attack, vs defending 22 infantry with 7 defense (With the general bonus).
And you all seem to be leaving the fact, that i watched the battle, as soon as the infantry vs infantry fight start, my army gets 1 shot dead.

In my opinion, there is a glitch going on, when you attack, but you get counter attacked.
My previous report was that my army got 1 headshot, after being counter attacked.

I'm guessing it is the Heli's

Came here to say this: bad luck

Napísal Amok, 15.03.2012 at 15:23

Came here to say this: bad luck

So you're saying that it was just a really bad stroke of luck, not an actual bug? o_O

Napísal T.Atheist, 15.03.2012 at 16:59

This has also happened to me before the DS strategy comes out, i think i reported it somewhere, but i didn't had any screenshot.
I also don't think its the strategy.
In my opinion this occurs when you get counter attacked, and some glitches pop out, mixing up who's the attacker and who's the defender.
I'll try to watch every fight i can, and if this comes out again, i'll record it and upload the video.

Definitely do that as it would really help in solving this.

Napísal YOBA, 15.03.2012 at 15:58

Napísal Amok, 15.03.2012 at 15:23

Came here to say this: bad luck

So you're saying that it was just a really bad stroke of luck, not an actual bug? o_O

I find that quite silly, no offense.
22 infantry x 7 defense = 154 defense, loses to 5 infantry x 3 attack = 15 attack.
Not to mention the instant death to my units as i watched the fight, the maximum units that die in 1 shot was 2 as far as i've seen, not 23.
Now, that is a 10:1 ratio .

22 infantry, 1 general, 7 helicopters = 22 * 7 + 7 * 6 = 196 total defence with DS
7 tanks, 9 infantry, and a general = 7 * 9 + 9 * 3 = 90 total attack with TG
You have 2x the power, but still lose = bad luck.

Napísal Amok, 15.03.2012 at 16:36

22 infantry, 1 general, 7 helicopters = 22 * 7 + 7 * 6 = 196 total defence with DS
7 tanks, 9 infantry, and a general = 7 * 10 + 9 * 4 = ~106 total attack with GC
You have 2x the power, but still lose = bad luck.

With GC?
Amok, the enemy i lost my army to was playing Tank General, he was rank 0 player.
Lets make the calculations again shall we?
7 tanks x 9 attack = 63 + 9 infantry x 3 attack = 27 attack, overall = 90 attack vs 196 total defense.
That's little more than 2:1 ratio.
But still, you have not explained about the battle phase, when i watched the actual fight, how come my helicopters get to defend first, when the infantry has bigger defense by 1, also the helicopters killed the 9 attack tanks, and 2 infantry, when the infantry vs infantry fight started, my army gets 1 big head shot and dies off instantly. What about this?

Well I can't see what's actually happened from that screenshot. Next time take a series or record a video or something. The DS strategy couldn't have just suddenly introduced a bug into the combat system, 'cause it's just different numbers that's all.

Napísal Amok, 15.03.2012 at 16:50

Well I can't see what's actually happened from that screenshot. Next time take a series or record a video or something. The DS strategy couldn't have just suddenly introduced a bug into the combat system, 'cause it's just different numbers that's all.

This has also happened to me before the DS strategy comes out, i think i reported it somewhere, but i didn't had any screenshot.
I also don't think its the strategy.
In my opinion this occurs when you get counter attacked, and some glitches pop out, mixing up who's the attacker and who's the defender.
I'll try to watch every fight i can, and if this comes out again, i'll record it and upload the video.

Just bad bad karma

Napísal Sixstars, 15.03.2012 at 19:15

Just bad bad karma

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Napísal Sixstars, 15.03.2012 at 19:15

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