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Napísané Greenflame, 02.02.2017 - 07:01
It was a bad day when Trump was elected president. It was an even worse day when he started following through on some of his promises.



Weeeeeeeellllll, it isn't. Trump can easily be debunked on several of the cornerstones of his agenda, upon which there isn't much left of him.

IMMIGRATION

Terrorists

Trump has prevented immigration from several countries for 90 days to "prevent terrorists from getting in". The thing is, this isn't going to be effective at all: Your chances of being killed by an immigrant or a refugee terrorist is 1 in 3.6 billion. You're more likely to be killed by a lightning strike or an armed toddler. Therefore, it is more logical to ban toddlers for 90 days and save more lives.

The Wall

The wall across the Mexican border is also a defining part of Trump's agenda. However, it's going to be tricky for him to get it to do anything.

Say that you are Trump, and you build a wall. It's a nice wall, 20 feet high, it's the best wall they've ever seen. But the illegal immigrants still come. You check and you see that they have 21 foot tall ladders to get over the wall. So you make it higher, but they get 31 foot tall ladders. You put barbed wire on top of the wall, but their ladders just get a bit taller. So you get guards to patrol the top of the wall; if anybody comes up, they get detained.

But they still keep on coming through. You look and you find that they dig tunnels under the wall. So you get tremor sensors that alert your guards when somebody is trying to dig / crawl through. The illegal immigrants stop coming through, and the wall works beautifully. However, the wall is a larger version of the Berlin Wall, and we all know how well that ended up (hint: badly). And eventually, you find that the illegal immigrants are still coming through. You look and you look and you realize that you spent $50 billion dollars on a wall that doesn't even work because the immigrants can take a boat.

Paying for the Wall

Trump said that Mexico would pay for the wall he built. They refused. So, Trump said that Mexico will pay for the wall with a 20% import tax on goods from Mexico. Let's have an example:

Miguel sells salsa to John for $5 per jar. Then, the import tax comes along, so Miguel sells the salsa for $6, the US gets its $1, but Miguel still gets $5 dollars in profit. Who paid for the wall?

The American Consumer.

So in reality, the American people will pay for a wall that doesn't work.

The Environment

This just makes me sad. There is undeniable proof that the climate is changing; 2016 was the hottest year on record. The famines in Africa? That's because of pollution. Species are losing their habitat and their lives thanks to humans, and now we've elected a president who believes that the climate is not changing. He is going to try to build the North Dakota Access Pipeline and the Keystone Pipeline so we can all die from climate change faster. Fun. NOT. In case you need some convincing, take into account that 97% of all scientists agree that the climate is changing.

CONCLUSION

Trump's agenda is wrong and flawed, and all that's left now is a psychopath with such a distorted view of reality that it's scary af. So unless we get him impeached ASAP, we're going to all end up dead.

That was pretty depressing, I admit.


"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

"There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."

― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King

That's better. Anyways, there's work to do.
03.02.2017 - 00:56
 Witch-Doctor (Moderátor)
Napísal Tik-Tok, 03.02.2017 at 00:41

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 02.02.2017 at 10:15
Hint it stops or at the very least hinders russians and syrians from dropping bombs.


Like in Libya? That worked wonders didn't it? Libya is doing so great now isn't i- oh wait, it's a hellhole. Good job!

And how exactly are they going to stop Russian jets? Ask them nicely? No, they'll shoot them down over a foreign sovereign nations territory who has explicitly stated that the US should leave and that only Russia has access. How the hell is that not the start of a war or a major escalation towards one?

Fucking Liberals.


How does that defend any of Trump's shitty policies?

It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to think that by insulting Hillary's "policies" that it somehow makes Trump's policies right.
Remember our listen discussion on low T tik-tok? Remember how convenient it was for you to use occams razor and ignore how that also proves my point? Remember how when I called you out on it you ignore it like it never happened?

Secondly WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING SOURCES for half the shit you're saying.
You make claims such as
"explicitly stated that the US should leave and that only Russia has access"
I'm not going to take your word for it. Show me some proof for it.

Your confirmation bias is beyond belief and you're metaphorically plugging your ears at anything that might challenge your world views.
Nahrávam...
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03.02.2017 - 01:02
 Witch-Doctor (Moderátor)
Napísal Tik-Tok, 03.02.2017 at 00:36

No, we'll see a breakdown in politics and economics as globalists prepare to tank the economy. But his policies are beautiful. And I bet you can't name a single one that's bad for the American People.


Wanting to get rid of the ACA without already having a suitable replacement.

Building a wall that can be defeated with wire cutters. If you argue it creates jobs, paying people to lick your ass is an equally valid way of creating jobs.
Nahrávam...
Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 01:24
Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
How does that defend any of Trump's shitty policies?


Name a 'shitty' policy.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to think that by insulting Hillary's "policies" that it somehow makes Trump's policies right.


You haven't proven Trump policies wrong while it is very obvious Hilary policies would lead to an escalation towards war with Russia.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
Remember our listen discussion on low T tik-tok? Remember how convenient it was for you to use occams razor and ignore how that also proves my point? Remember how when I called you out on it you ignore it like it never happened?


I'm a busy man, I'll answer when I feel like it.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56

Secondly WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING SOURCES for half the shit you're saying.
You make claims such as
"explicitly stated that the US should leave and that only Russia has access"
I'm not going to take your word for it. Show me some proof for it.


Can't believe I have to source obvious information. Have you been living under a rock? Or are you only pretending to be this ignorant?

The US does not have Syria permission and has been told to leave it. The US refuses to do this, claims it's not conducting 'combat' operations ( which is irrelevant) and claims it doesn't even recognize the sovereign Syrian government.

Cituj:
By contrast, the U.S.-led anti-Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) coalition does not have the regime's permission to be involved in Syria - something which Russia in particular has been emphasizing as it justifies its own month-old military intervention.

Cituj:
The U.S. does recognize the legitimacy of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and has not sought his regime's approval for a campaign of airstrikes against ISIS, launched more than a year ago.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/assad-regime-us-intervention-must-be-coordinated-syria-or-will

Syria asked for Russia aid and intervention and have thanked them for it.

Cituj:
Bashar al-Assad thanks Putin for Syria strikes as Russia announces US talks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/bashar-al-assad-thanks-russia-vladimir-putin-syria-airstrikes

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
Your confirmation bias is beyond belief and you're metaphorically plugging your ears at anything that might challenge your world views.


Not an argument. In fact, your confirmation bias is off the charts. I can back everything I say with data and facts. You're openly implying that US shooting down Russian jets wont lead to escalations towards war? That's the stupidest thing I've heard so far this year. And how do you come to this dumb conclusion? Because you're a rug muncher for Hillary 'Warmonger' Clinton.
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03.02.2017 - 01:35
Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 01:02
Wanting to get rid of the ACA without already having a suitable replacement.


It's a massive burden and causing a massive rise in cost for many people who had insurance. It's also completely unsustainable. Medicaid is just as bad and will cost a massive $2 TRILLION a year within the next ten years. The US is in $19.5 TRILLION debt. The interest on the debt alone will swallow a third of the US budget within 5 years overtaking military expenditure & the Fed can't put interest rates any lower. It's beyond fucked regardless.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 01:02
Building a wall that can be defeated with wire cutters. If you argue it creates jobs, paying people to lick your ass is an equally valid way of creating jobs.


It's a WALL. Not a fence. Illegals are going to be deported, companies will be heavily punished for hiring illegals and borders will actually be enforced coupled with a massive fuck off wall. The era of illegals entering the US is over because a President is finally going to tackle it instead of pretending to deal with it.
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03.02.2017 - 02:52
I am witnessesing one of major world power collapsing. I guess that is how the world works.
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No such thing as a good girl, you are just not the right guy.

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03.02.2017 - 03:02
Cituj:
Napísal Brsjak, 02.02.2017 at 11:44

Napísal Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 10:40

Napísal Brsjak, 02.02.2017 at 10:25

Napísal Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 10:23

Napísal Brsjak, 02.02.2017 at 07:20

Trump's agenda is wrong and flawed, and all that's left now is a psychopath with such a distorted view of reality that it's scary af. So unless we get him impeached ASAP, we're
going to all end up dead.

if hillary got elected i whould exept a nuclear war the biggest theart to america was hillarys foreign policy

You joking right?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwju-cLk6fHRAhXDVRQKHYiYDIAQuAIIIzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfmE9Jj-rEVs&usg=AFQjCNHzs_jSsg-bqdwTu1OxPbHOdIaNbw&bvm=bv.146073913,d.d24

i think a usa general knows more about the current situation...

You forgot you didn't had nuclear war during cold war, but you think you will have one...
You fell for russian bots, this is one kind of hybrid warfare

bots what is that/


People, usually students that need money (although some people do it because of their ideology), spamming posts comments and videos to support one side. Countries that have them most is Russia and Israel.
Also there are party bots.
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No such thing as a good girl, you are just not the right guy.

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03.02.2017 - 06:55
To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.
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03.02.2017 - 08:29
Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 06:55

To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.

Except your failing to relise that the right does not have sympathy for them because of there wealth or status, none of us where colonials none of us owned slaves, we owe them nothing. There is a reason why colonialism was so populare in africa, most of the continent is very rich in various resources, with all that abundant wealth waiting to be produced countries like south Africa Nigeria camaroon and Ethiopia should be pretty wealthy after 70 years of freedom. Hell Germany lost two world wars and was raped by russia for 40 years and it's basically forming the fourth Reich as it slowly consumes the European Union with its power and wealth.

As in the middle east case, most Americans are completly against wars in the middle east in fact american presence there is illegal, never once did the Senate ever approve a invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, or now syria. In american politics the president has been breaking our laws for 20 years now, appeasing to lobbyists and globalist alike trying to control oil. But with all that being said as an america citizen I owe them nothing, people have pillaged each other for there wealth for as long as humans have existed this is no diferent. I don't care about any foreigner on this planet who opposes my country yet begs for our assistance. If you come to america you must become an american, your no longer a Nigerian or an Egyptian or a Phillipino your an american and when you migrate here legally you must swear an oath to abandon where you came from and align fully with us. Anyone who is here now leaching off the system, while hating our nation, while cheering for our enemies should be pegged an invader and killed. But this is the United states we are good people so stop bitching about deportation before you awaken an evil sect of Americans who will kill minorities, and will demand religious conversion. If you attack people long enough they will revert to radicalism everytime. That is what you liberals are pushing for.

My prediction if you stay the course of being intolerable and un-negotiable is this. A well armed, radical christian force will rise from the darkness you caused and kill everyone of you people. You don't even have guns you are at the mercy of those who do. So think wisely about your actions because history does repeat itself. Humans are animals first and can be very savage when the need to survive arises.

So stop trying to make others live how you want them to, stop trying to change society to feed your ego, let americans be americans, and let our brave men and women defend our nation from anyone who would do us harm, that includes Ali Babba and his 6 wives and 14 children collecting 5k in food stamps per wife each month. To Tyrone the gang banger who got caught with a kilo of cocain and tried to run and got killed. To pico hambre gang in Arizona who murdered my uncle in a initiation ceremony, to Earl Karling, at some rally rioting for rights women already have, while really he just wants to loot best buy. To Goerge soros paying 2500 a protestor to cause mass hysteria in our city centers, to national media minipulating the unsuspecting masses with targeted news reporting, false news reporting and biased news reporting. To any other dirt ball who has an agenda to exploit our country. Your going to cause millions of ultra conservitives to rise to stop you from destroying the country. When that happens your fucked, no amount of protesting will work. You'll need to fight or die.
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We are not the same- I am a Martian.
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03.02.2017 - 08:36
 Witch-Doctor (Moderátor)
Napísal Tik-Tok, 03.02.2017 at 01:24

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
How does that defend any of Trump's shitty policies?


Name a 'shitty' policy.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to think that by insulting Hillary's "policies" that it somehow makes Trump's policies right.


You haven't proven Trump policies wrong while it is very obvious Hilary policies would lead to an escalation towards war with Russia.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
Remember our listen discussion on low T tik-tok? Remember how convenient it was for you to use occams razor and ignore how that also proves my point? Remember how when I called you out on it you ignore it like it never happened?


I'm a busy man, I'll answer when I feel like it.

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56

Secondly WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING SOURCES for half the shit you're saying.
You make claims such as
"explicitly stated that the US should leave and that only Russia has access"
I'm not going to take your word for it. Show me some proof for it.


Can't believe I have to source obvious information. Have you been living under a rock? Or are you only pretending to be this ignorant?

The US does not have Syria permission and has been told to leave it. The US refuses to do this, claims it's not conducting 'combat' operations ( which is irrelevant) and claims it doesn't even recognize the sovereign Syrian government.

Cituj:
By contrast, the U.S.-led anti-Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) coalition does not have the regime's permission to be involved in Syria - something which Russia in particular has been emphasizing as it justifies its own month-old military intervention.

Cituj:
The U.S. does recognize the legitimacy of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and has not sought his regime's approval for a campaign of airstrikes against ISIS, launched more than a year ago.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/assad-regime-us-intervention-must-be-coordinated-syria-or-will

Syria asked for Russia aid and intervention and have thanked them for it.

Cituj:
Bashar al-Assad thanks Putin for Syria strikes as Russia announces US talks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/bashar-al-assad-thanks-russia-vladimir-putin-syria-airstrikes

Napísal Witch-Doctor, 03.02.2017 at 00:56
Your confirmation bias is beyond belief and you're metaphorically plugging your ears at anything that might challenge your world views.


Not an argument. In fact, your confirmation bias is off the charts. I can back everything I say with data and facts. You're openly implying that US shooting down Russian jets wont lead to escalations towards war? That's the stupidest thing I've heard so far this year. And how do you come to this dumb conclusion?
Because you're a rug muncher for Hillary 'Warmonger' Clinton.



You still are not defending any of Trump's point. You're still naively thinking that by continuing to insult the losing candidate that you are validating Trump's policies.

Turkey, a NATO member shot down a russian jet over syria. Hint ww3 didnt start.
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03.02.2017 - 08:37
Napísal Black Swans, 03.02.2017 at 02:52

I am witnessesing one of major world power collapsing. I guess that is how the world works.

You better hope whatever rises from the ashes is as tolerable as what you seek to kill now. I could only Imagin the world shaking as a Facist super state of conservitives christians plots to conquer your liberal world. Unfathomable? We will see, history has proven it possible.
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Nahrávam...
Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 09:06
Napísal Helly, 03.02.2017 at 08:29

Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 06:55

To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.

Except your failing to relise that the right does not have sympathy for them because of there wealth or status, none of us where colonials none of us owned slaves, we owe them nothing. There is a reason why colonialism was so populare in africa, most of the continent is very rich in various resources, with all that abundant wealth waiting to be produced countries like south Africa Nigeria camaroon and Ethiopia should be pretty wealthy after 70 years of freedom. Hell Germany lost two world wars and was raped by russia for 40 years and it's basically forming the fourth Reich as it slowly consumes the European Union with its power and wealth.

As in the middle east case, most Americans are completly against wars in the middle east in fact american presence there is illegal, never once did the Senate ever approve a invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, or now syria. In american politics the president has been breaking our laws for 20 years now, appeasing to lobbyists and globalist alike trying to control oil. But with all that being said as an america citizen I owe them nothing, people have pillaged each other for there wealth for as long as humans have existed this is no diferent. I don't care about any foreigner on this planet who opposes my country yet begs for our assistance. If you come to america you must become an american, your no longer a Nigerian or an Egyptian or a Phillipino your an american and when you migrate here legally you must swear an oath to abandon where you came from and align fully with us. Anyone who is here now leaching off the system, while hating our nation, while cheering for our enemies should be pegged an invader and killed. But this is the United states we are good people so stop bitching about deportation before you awaken an evil sect of Americans who will kill minorities, and will demand religious conversion. If you attack people long enough they will revert to radicalism everytime. That is what you liberals are pushing for.

My prediction if you stay the course of being intolerable and un-negotiable is this. A well armed, radical christian force will rise from the darkness you caused and kill everyone of you people. You don't even have guns you are at the mercy of those who do. So think wisely about your actions because history does repeat itself. Humans are animals first and can be very savage when the need to survive arises.

So stop trying to make others live how you want them to, stop trying to change society to feed your ego, let americans be americans, and let our brave men and women defend our nation from anyone who would do us harm, that includes Ali Babba and his 6 wives and 14 children collecting 5k in food stamps per wife each month. To Tyrone the gang banger who got caught with a kilo of cocain and tried to run and got killed. To pico hambre gang in Arizona who murdered my uncle in a initiation ceremony, to Earl Karling, at some rally rioting for rights women already have, while really he just wants to loot best buy. To Goerge soros paying 2500 a protestor to cause mass hysteria in our city centers, to national media minipulating the unsuspecting masses with targeted news reporting, false news reporting and biased news reporting. To any other dirt ball who has an agenda to exploit our country. Your going to cause millions of ultra conservitives to rise to stop you from destroying the country. When that happens your fucked, no amount of protesting will work. You'll need to fight or die.


So long as humans view the world with borders, then we will fight and kill and die. We are all immigrants, even those of us who are descended from the first settlers. What gives a man the right to kill another man? Deep down, we're all human, even the worst of us. But never should one kill another, for they have no right to do so. A world filled with different countries vying for power will die.
Fight not hate with hate; fight it with love.
Blame not the many for the actions of the few.
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Nahrávam...
Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 09:19
Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 09:06

Napísal Helly, 03.02.2017 at 08:29

Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 06:55

To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.

Except your failing to relise that the right does not have sympathy for them because of there wealth or status, none of us where colonials none of us owned slaves, we owe them nothing. There is a reason why colonialism was so populare in africa, most of the continent is very rich in various resources, with all that abundant wealth waiting to be produced countries like south Africa Nigeria camaroon and Ethiopia should be pretty wealthy after 70 years of freedom. Hell Germany lost two world wars and was raped by russia for 40 years and it's basically forming the fourth Reich as it slowly consumes the European Union with its power and wealth.

As in the middle east case, most Americans are completly against wars in the middle east in fact american presence there is illegal, never once did the Senate ever approve a invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, or now syria. In american politics the president has been breaking our laws for 20 years now, appeasing to lobbyists and globalist alike trying to control oil. But with all that being said as an america citizen I owe them nothing, people have pillaged each other for there wealth for as long as humans have existed this is no diferent. I don't care about any foreigner on this planet who opposes my country yet begs for our assistance. If you come to america you must become an american, your no longer a Nigerian or an Egyptian or a Phillipino your an american and when you migrate here legally you must swear an oath to abandon where you came from and align fully with us. Anyone who is here now leaching off the system, while hating our nation, while cheering for our enemies should be pegged an invader and killed. But this is the United states we are good people so stop bitching about deportation before you awaken an evil sect of Americans who will kill minorities, and will demand religious conversion. If you attack people long enough they will revert to radicalism everytime. That is what you liberals are pushing for.

My prediction if you stay the course of being intolerable and un-negotiable is this. A well armed, radical christian force will rise from the darkness you caused and kill everyone of you people. You don't even have guns you are at the mercy of those who do. So think wisely about your actions because history does repeat itself. Humans are animals first and can be very savage when the need to survive arises.

So stop trying to make others live how you want them to, stop trying to change society to feed your ego, let americans be americans, and let our brave men and women defend our nation from anyone who would do us harm, that includes Ali Babba and his 6 wives and 14 children collecting 5k in food stamps per wife each month. To Tyrone the gang banger who got caught with a kilo of cocain and tried to run and got killed. To pico hambre gang in Arizona who murdered my uncle in a initiation ceremony, to Earl Karling, at some rally rioting for rights women already have, while really he just wants to loot best buy. To Goerge soros paying 2500 a protestor to cause mass hysteria in our city centers, to national media minipulating the unsuspecting masses with targeted news reporting, false news reporting and biased news reporting. To any other dirt ball who has an agenda to exploit our country. Your going to cause millions of ultra conservitives to rise to stop you from destroying the country. When that happens your fucked, no amount of protesting will work. You'll need to fight or die.


So long as humans view the world with borders, then we will fight and kill and die. We are all immigrants, even those of us who are descended from the first settlers. What gives a man the right to kill another man? Deep down, we're all human, even the worst of us. But never should one kill another, for they have no right to do so. A world filled with different countries vying for power will die.
Fight not hate with hate; fight it with love.
Blame not the many for the actions of the few.

Your completly 100% correct and I want a world very similar to your own. I want a world without war, a world where all men have equal opportunity for happiness and contribution to society. I want man to reach for the stars and become gods themselves instead of groveling under a book. Unfortunatly we do not live in that world, what is even worse is that are reality is a lie, these movements and ideas are pure, but the billionaires and politicians have stolen them from you, they twisted reality, and pitted man against man left versus right, devided and conquered. I don't hate refugees, I don't hate anyone unless they wish harm on me or my people, but 99% of our planet must live on 60% of the planets wealth while 1% hordes there vast wealth in a unhealthy quest for even more power and control. Bribing our politicians to enforce policies that hurt everyone else while minipulating the left and right into believing it's the other sides fault. Untill the day man kind rids itself of greed we are doomed to evil. But as a human I have an obligation first to myself, then to my family then my community, and as a human I must fight for my part of that 60% of wealth so my family and people can survive, but deep down inside we both want the same thing and we can't achieve it in this current world.
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03.02.2017 - 10:49
Napísal Helly, 03.02.2017 at 09:19

Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 09:06

Napísal Helly, 03.02.2017 at 08:29

Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 06:55

To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.

Except your failing to relise that the right does not have sympathy for them because of there wealth or status, none of us where colonials none of us owned slaves, we owe them nothing. There is a reason why colonialism was so populare in africa, most of the continent is very rich in various resources, with all that abundant wealth waiting to be produced countries like south Africa Nigeria camaroon and Ethiopia should be pretty wealthy after 70 years of freedom. Hell Germany lost two world wars and was raped by russia for 40 years and it's basically forming the fourth Reich as it slowly consumes the European Union with its power and wealth.

As in the middle east case, most Americans are completly against wars in the middle east in fact american presence there is illegal, never once did the Senate ever approve a invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, or now syria. In american politics the president has been breaking our laws for 20 years now, appeasing to lobbyists and globalist alike trying to control oil. But with all that being said as an america citizen I owe them nothing, people have pillaged each other for there wealth for as long as humans have existed this is no diferent. I don't care about any foreigner on this planet who opposes my country yet begs for our assistance. If you come to america you must become an american, your no longer a Nigerian or an Egyptian or a Phillipino your an american and when you migrate here legally you must swear an oath to abandon where you came from and align fully with us. Anyone who is here now leaching off the system, while hating our nation, while cheering for our enemies should be pegged an invader and killed. But this is the United states we are good people so stop bitching about deportation before you awaken an evil sect of Americans who will kill minorities, and will demand religious conversion. If you attack people long enough they will revert to radicalism everytime. That is what you liberals are pushing for.

My prediction if you stay the course of being intolerable and un-negotiable is this. A well armed, radical christian force will rise from the darkness you caused and kill everyone of you people. You don't even have guns you are at the mercy of those who do. So think wisely about your actions because history does repeat itself. Humans are animals first and can be very savage when the need to survive arises.

So stop trying to make others live how you want them to, stop trying to change society to feed your ego, let americans be americans, and let our brave men and women defend our nation from anyone who would do us harm, that includes Ali Babba and his 6 wives and 14 children collecting 5k in food stamps per wife each month. To Tyrone the gang banger who got caught with a kilo of cocain and tried to run and got killed. To pico hambre gang in Arizona who murdered my uncle in a initiation ceremony, to Earl Karling, at some rally rioting for rights women already have, while really he just wants to loot best buy. To Goerge soros paying 2500 a protestor to cause mass hysteria in our city centers, to national media minipulating the unsuspecting masses with targeted news reporting, false news reporting and biased news reporting. To any other dirt ball who has an agenda to exploit our country. Your going to cause millions of ultra conservitives to rise to stop you from destroying the country. When that happens your fucked, no amount of protesting will work. You'll need to fight or die.


So long as humans view the world with borders, then we will fight and kill and die. We are all immigrants, even those of us who are descended from the first settlers. What gives a man the right to kill another man? Deep down, we're all human, even the worst of us. But never should one kill another, for they have no right to do so. A world filled with different countries vying for power will die.
Fight not hate with hate; fight it with love.
Blame not the many for the actions of the few.

Your completly 100% correct and I want a world very similar to your own. I want a world without war, a world where all men have equal opportunity for happiness and contribution to society. I want man to reach for the stars and become gods themselves instead of groveling under a book. Unfortunatly we do not live in that world, what is even worse is that are reality is a lie, these movements and ideas are pure, but the billionaires and politicians have stolen them from you, they twisted reality, and pitted man against man left versus right, devided and conquered. I don't hate refugees, I don't hate anyone unless they wish harm on me or my people, but 99% of our planet must live on 60% of the planets wealth while 1% hordes there vast wealth in a unhealthy quest for even more power and control. Bribing our politicians to enforce policies that hurt everyone else while minipulating the left and right into believing it's the other sides fault. Untill the day man kind rids itself of greed we are doomed to evil. But as a human I have an obligation first to myself, then to my family then my community, and as a human I must fight for my part of that 60% of wealth so my family and people can survive, but deep down inside we both want the same thing and we can't achieve it in this current world.


The cylinder isn't a pretty one, but it's a correct one.
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Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 11:33
Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 09:06

Napísal Helly, 03.02.2017 at 08:29

Napísal Greenflame, 03.02.2017 at 06:55

To those of you who want to keep third-world refugees away from the West: How would you like it? If you've been persecuted for years and flee to a place where you can make a new life, how would you like being declined and thrown away? Refugees and immigrants do all the dirty jobs that nobody wants; bathroom cleaning, plumbing, etc. But you want to blame them, because it's easier to blame someone else for something than to blame yourself. We've all done it. That doesn't make it right, though. Not everything is the fault of the "evil" Mexico, China, and refugees.



This is a cylinder. Person A looks at the side of the cylinder and sees a rectangle. Person B looks at the cylinder from the top and sees a circle. Person A and Person B start arguing over which one is right, and only when they see that the other side is right, even just a little bit, only then can they understand the cylinder.

Except your failing to relise that the right does not have sympathy for them because of there wealth or status, none of us where colonials none of us owned slaves, we owe them nothing. There is a reason why colonialism was so populare in africa, most of the continent is very rich in various resources, with all that abundant wealth waiting to be produced countries like south Africa Nigeria camaroon and Ethiopia should be pretty wealthy after 70 years of freedom. Hell Germany lost two world wars and was raped by russia for 40 years and it's basically forming the fourth Reich as it slowly consumes the European Union with its power and wealth.

As in the middle east case, most Americans are completly against wars in the middle east in fact american presence there is illegal, never once did the Senate ever approve a invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, or now syria. In american politics the president has been breaking our laws for 20 years now, appeasing to lobbyists and globalist alike trying to control oil. But with all that being said as an america citizen I owe them nothing, people have pillaged each other for there wealth for as long as humans have existed this is no diferent. I don't care about any foreigner on this planet who opposes my country yet begs for our assistance. If you come to america you must become an american, your no longer a Nigerian or an Egyptian or a Phillipino your an american and when you migrate here legally you must swear an oath to abandon where you came from and align fully with us. Anyone who is here now leaching off the system, while hating our nation, while cheering for our enemies should be pegged an invader and killed. But this is the United states we are good people so stop bitching about deportation before you awaken an evil sect of Americans who will kill minorities, and will demand religious conversion. If you attack people long enough they will revert to radicalism everytime. That is what you liberals are pushing for.

My prediction if you stay the course of being intolerable and un-negotiable is this. A well armed, radical christian force will rise from the darkness you caused and kill everyone of you people. You don't even have guns you are at the mercy of those who do. So think wisely about your actions because history does repeat itself. Humans are animals first and can be very savage when the need to survive arises.

So stop trying to make others live how you want them to, stop trying to change society to feed your ego, let americans be americans, and let our brave men and women defend our nation from anyone who would do us harm, that includes Ali Babba and his 6 wives and 14 children collecting 5k in food stamps per wife each month. To Tyrone the gang banger who got caught with a kilo of cocain and tried to run and got killed. To pico hambre gang in Arizona who murdered my uncle in a initiation ceremony, to Earl Karling, at some rally rioting for rights women already have, while really he just wants to loot best buy. To Goerge soros paying 2500 a protestor to cause mass hysteria in our city centers, to national media minipulating the unsuspecting masses with targeted news reporting, false news reporting and biased news reporting. To any other dirt ball who has an agenda to exploit our country. Your going to cause millions of ultra conservitives to rise to stop you from destroying the country. When that happens your fucked, no amount of protesting will work. You'll need to fight or die.


So long as humans view the world with borders, then we will fight and kill and die. We are all immigrants, even those of us who are descended from the first settlers. What gives a man the right to kill another man? Deep down, we're all human, even the worst of us. But never should one kill another, for they have no right to do so. A world filled with different countries vying for power will die.
Fight not hate with hate; fight it with love.
Blame not the many for the actions of the few.


Open borders would turn the first world into a 3rd world shithole.
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Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 11:35
Napísal Tundy, 03.02.2017 at 11:33

Open borders would turn the first world into a 3rd world shithole.


i strongly disagree

lations in Israel would be freaking awesome
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03.02.2017 - 11:36


how can you not like them
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03.02.2017 - 11:42
Napísal Rock Lee, 03.02.2017 at 11:35

Napísal Tundy, 03.02.2017 at 11:33

Open borders would turn the first world into a 3rd world shithole.


i strongly disagree

lations in Israel would be freaking awesome


Dont even get me started in how israel sterilizes black jews.
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Nahrávam...
03.02.2017 - 11:45
Napísal Tundy, 03.02.2017 at 11:42

Dont even get me started in how israel sterilizes black jews.


i think i would know a little bit better than you
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03.02.2017 - 12:10
Napísal Rock Lee, 03.02.2017 at 11:45

Napísal Tundy, 03.02.2017 at 11:42

Dont even get me started in how israel sterilizes black jews.


i think i would know a little bit better than you


Israel should open its borders, tear down their wall and accept all of the syrian refugees before preaching about open borders.
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03.02.2017 - 12:16
Napísal Tundy, 03.02.2017 at 12:10

Israel should open its borders, tear down their wall and accept all of the syrian refugees before preaching about open borders.

syrian population is still entirely hostile to Israel,that's a quick recipe for civil war

i did not preache about anything, i was trying to get people in funnier mood, but it's not easy here. anyways, i don't think that nations that don't want to must accept people that do not belong to them especially if it has assurances to fail or they already accepted to many (for example In germany, it seems it will take decades for so many people to intergrate), also some of them usually don't want to integrate, it's not very nice or inspiring but it's the desicion of the people of the nation.
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03.02.2017 - 14:08
 brianwl (Admin)
Napísal Rock Lee, 03.02.2017 at 12:16


it's not very nice or inspiring but it's the desicion of the people of the nation.


When has a nation ever let it's people decide immigration policy?
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03.02.2017 - 14:14
Napísal brianwl, 03.02.2017 at 14:08

When has a nation ever let it's people decide immigration policy?

It's not direct influence but that influcence exist, if government does not consider its public wants and needs it feels the consequences.

some government cover it by force or by lies or medial work, very often they get away with their fouls but eventually governors who do not represent the people lose popularity.
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03.02.2017 - 14:18
 brianwl (Admin)
When has a people ever wanted immigrants ? (this was kind of implied in the initial question.) ♥
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03.02.2017 - 14:50
Napísal brianwl, 03.02.2017 at 14:18

When has a people ever wanted immigrants ? (this was kind of implied in the initial question.) ♥

when they lacked basic products and high techlonogy but did'nt have the people who are disposed to or capable of doing them.

if next generations are desiding to be assholes and deny the existance of the nation that finances their unemployment it's another issue.
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03.02.2017 - 14:59
 brianwl (Admin)
Give a specific example.. i've never heard the people wanting immigrants.. only governments have wanted immigrants.
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03.02.2017 - 15:07
Napísal brianwl, 03.02.2017 at 14:59

Give a specific example.. i've never heard the people wanting immigrants.. only governments.

well the most actual example i readed about is Japan, because they face nowdays the same problems and bring immigrants from all over asia

governemnt bring immigrants for two reaons:

1. outside pressure/idieology/hype (foul motives for reforms im my opinion)
2. to solve financial issues.

stable economy and achieveable basic products are the keen of the public (or the people), immigration is easy measure to handle these problems in the short term.
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03.02.2017 - 15:09
 brianwl (Admin)
Japanese people do not want immigrants... they are among the most homogeneous societies known. Sure, they want slaves (now we call that cheap labour from abroad) and there are rich examples of that, but they don't want them to stay and integrate into their society.
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03.02.2017 - 15:13
Napísal brianwl, 03.02.2017 at 15:09

Japanese people do not want immigrants... they are among the most homogeneous societies known. Sure, they want slaves (now we call that cheap labour from abroad) and there are rich examples of that, but they don't want them to stay and integrate into their society.

the point is they brought them to serve the keen of the people and solve problems that bother them

and according to what i readed they are even financing foreign students college to keep them for several working years, these problems are real too.
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03.02.2017 - 16:02
 brianwl (Admin)
The point is, it is the governments that created the financial problems in the first place. The people don't want the foreigners.
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03.02.2017 - 16:07
Napísal brianwl, 03.02.2017 at 16:02

The point is, it is the governments that created the financial problems in the first place. The people don't want the foreigners.

i totally agree with you
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