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Napísané Augustus Caesar, 19.12.2016 - 18:05
21.12.2016 - 12:18
Jesus martell are you getting into the whole balkan flame thread buisness?
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21.12.2016 - 13:05
Napísal Zephyrusu, 21.12.2016 at 10:44

Napísal RaulPB, 20.12.2016 at 17:25

While reading a bit through balkan's comments, it comes to mind this strange idea that no one really has the real facts about history (it seems like this due to everyone contradicting one another), so why arguing at all?

Isn't that the case with all historical and political debates?

The point is its on purpose. The truth is most of the balkans share very similare culture history and origin apart from albanians greeks and dicians(Romanians) the world knows there ferocity and to prevent a Slavic version of old germany they pitted there people's against one another making sure there will never be a Slavic state in the balkans capable of being a threat. Devide and conquer, simplistic strategy best results.

But in all fairness the United states is only 250 years old, younger then albania even, we have a culture we have a history, and we have independence. The way serbia acts like it owns the balkans is asinine, sure let's say all slavs in the balkans come from serbs, it does not mean they are serbian today, the same way americans are not british, people change, adopt new ideas, they grow into new cultures, the best you all can do is relise your more similare then you ever where or are diferent, your the biproduct of dying imperialism and it's attempts to hold onto your nations. The sooner your relise this and work together the better for all of you.

Ps this is quoted to zeph who is not a slav. It is just I started going and just kept on.
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21.12.2016 - 13:14
Rather then a one nation balkan empire maybe start an economic union to help your struggling economies. Stop saying you own one another, aND start building the foundations for a better balkans.
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21.12.2016 - 14:01
Hellraiser you are the most attentionwhore ignorant guy i have ever seen tryin to argue about something you have no idea of and no knowledge

your comments are so ignorant, i dount you ever did history at school
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21.12.2016 - 14:12
Napísal AlBoZzZ, 21.12.2016 at 14:01

Hellraiser you are the most attentionwhore ignorant guy i have ever seen tryin to argue about something you have no idea of and no knowledge

your comments are so ignorant, i dount you ever did history at school

I actually studied the subject extensively because I enjoy learning about history, have you ever considered the history you where tought is not entirely true and serves the purpose of instilling pride, nationalism, and resentment twards your neighbors, with the purpose of keeping your people weak pitiful and easily controlled?
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21.12.2016 - 14:15
I don't understand why you don't even try and dispute my arguement at all, I geuss I'm just wrong because reasons huh?
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21.12.2016 - 14:51
Napísal AlBoZzZ, 21.12.2016 at 14:01

Hellraiser you are the most attentionwhore ignorant guy i have ever seen tryin to argue about something you have no idea of and no knowledge

your comments are so ignorant, i dount you ever did history at school

Again:
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21.12.2016 - 16:18
Balkan nations are like a couple of color blind assholes arguing about the color of the rainbow.
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22.12.2016 - 08:10
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Napísal Skanderbeg, 21.12.2016 at 09:05

I'm just following historical documents, we don't falsify history like newly created nations, or destroy statues of countries that doesn't exist anymore. We respect history and will never try to use it to suit our modern political goals like your 'kind' is doing.



Here's a document from Austria Hungary where they view Slovenians and Croats as Serbian subgroup while other name for Serbians is Illyrians.

Members of the Tribe of Gad, some of them, went for Balkan after Jews left Egypt, and they settled Epirus and Dalmatia, their leader was called Illyris and soon whole group started to call themselves that way because they were far away from their original tribe which already settled in Canaan and created Israel. when Slavs arrived on Balkan, largest group of them, the Serbs, mixed with Illyrians, but because of the numbers, Serbian culture and (greek christian) religion prevailed. Therefore, Austria-Hungary acknowledged them as Serbian-Illyrians.

But you keep changing your history and imagine some events, you can dream, but unfortunately that will change your identity to the point you won't know who you are, and your children, thus being vulnerable to new ideas, like the one you hate, liberalism, homosexuality, atheism, terrorism, nazsm.


That document seems to be from the 19th century, all the way up until 20th century Croats, Slovenes and Bosnians were considered illyrian, hence "Serbo- Illyrian", i mean even in the sub categories you have croats mentioned so why even try to use this document when it clearly supports my point?

A little tip for the future, when trying to use any document as evidence you have to look into it from the other perspective.
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22.12.2016 - 08:33
Napísal Evic, 22.12.2016 at 08:10

A little tip for the future, when trying to use any document as evidence you have to look into it from the other perspective.


Lol, that's exactly what you do haha 'Nazi Germany had to preventively attack USSR because if it didn't, USSR would attack first'.

That's perspective you use, coupled with 'IFs' and we are against that because it is clearly false and created to suit your agenda and not history.

We have a saying here 'if my grandmother had a balls she would be my grandfather', and 'if i had a balls in my armpit my arm would be a 1m long dick'. That's how modern West work, only IF. That's childish and we don't use that, sorry.
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22.12.2016 - 08:38
Napísal Guest, 21.12.2016 at 09:39

3 mods? You a mod wannabe huh? Zionist wont become mod.


Brian and Tactician were not mods when i met them. Nice try zionist.

But it is good indicator i look for normal people to talk to, people who are obviously eligible for modship because they are the rare normal in this troll game.

There are few more friends i have here but they are not known to you and others and some went inactive, so no point mentioning them.
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22.12.2016 - 09:37
Napísal Skanderbeg, 22.12.2016 at 08:38

But it is good indicator i look for normal people to talk to, people who are obviously eligible for modship because they are the rare normal in this troll game.

Why not e Mare then? He was elegible as well
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22.12.2016 - 10:29
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Napísal Skanderbeg, 22.12.2016 at 08:38

Napísal Guest, 21.12.2016 at 09:39

3 mods? You a mod wannabe huh? Zionist wont become mod.


Brian and Tactician were not mods when i met them. Nice try zionist.

But it is good indicator i look for normal people to talk to, people who are obviously eligible for modship because they are the rare normal in this troll game.

There are few more friends i have here but they are not known to you and others and some went inactive, so no point mentioning them.

Shut up zionist
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22.12.2016 - 10:38
Napísal Guest, 22.12.2016 at 10:29

Napísal Skanderbeg, 22.12.2016 at 08:38

Napísal Guest, 21.12.2016 at 09:39

3 mods? You a mod wannabe huh? Zionist wont become mod.


Brian and Tactician were not mods when i met them. Nice try zionist.

But it is good indicator i look for normal people to talk to, people who are obviously eligible for modship because they are the rare normal in this troll game.

There are few more friends i have here but they are not known to you and others and some went inactive, so no point mentioning them.

Shut up zionist


i'm rather sure that at this stage your already ignore by him so i don't see point to keep whoring for attention

regardless to the topic, shut up zionist
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23.12.2016 - 07:47
Napísal RaulPB, 22.12.2016 at 09:37

Why not e Mare then? He was elegible as well


I don't know e mare, i met only first players in this game, and when most of them went inactive and i kept playing, i found it hard to make contact with new players as they became more and more trolls, autisms and nazis, none of groups i belong to. In 2011, we only had one right winger and that's Tik-Tok, he didn't even say he is a nazi because we arleady made enough fun of him for being right winger.
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23.12.2016 - 10:15
Napísal Skanderbeg, 23.12.2016 at 07:47

Napísal RaulPB, 22.12.2016 at 09:37

Why not e Mare then? He was elegible as well


I don't know e mare, i met only first players in this game, and when most of them went inactive and i kept playing, i found it hard to make contact with new players as they became more and more trolls, autisms and nazis, none of groups i belong to. In 2011, we only had one right winger and that's Tik-Tok, he didn't even say he is a nazi because we arleady made enough fun of him for being right winger.


lol, everyone were nazis back there, half of the community was in my enemy list
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23.12.2016 - 11:41
Napísal Skanderbeg, 23.12.2016 at 07:47

I don't know e mare, i met only first players in this game, and when most of them went inactive and i kept playing, i found it hard to make contact with new players as they became more and more trolls, autisms and nazis, none of groups i belong to. In 2011, we only had one right winger and that's Tik-Tok, he didn't even say he is a nazi because we arleady made enough fun of him for being right winger.

How are you saying you don't belong to the troll group when that's basically what you do around the forum...? Something doesn't add up here
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23.12.2016 - 18:28
EU4 is so shit its not even a strategic game its just a paint the world game.
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24.12.2016 - 16:21
Napísal RaulPB, 23.12.2016 at 11:41

How are you saying you don't belong to the troll group when that's basically what you do around the forum...? Something doesn't add up here


If you feel offended by my presence or comments, that's your problem, not mine because you feel triggered.

It wasn't me who argued with Laochra on 2 pages. The guy who can't be provoked even when drunk.

So it seems you're the troll here, going around forum and trolling.
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27.12.2016 - 13:08
Napísal Skanderbeg, 24.12.2016 at 16:21

So it seems you're the troll here, going around forum and trolling.

I agree that this one time it was me trolling merry christmas tito!
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28.12.2016 - 03:35
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Napísal RaulPB, 27.12.2016 at 13:08

Napísal Skanderbeg, 24.12.2016 at 16:21

So it seems you're the troll here, going around forum and trolling.

I agree that this one time it was me trolling merry christmas tito!

Post food at gastronimic thread
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28.12.2016 - 04:53
Napísal DeepFriedUnicorn, 23.12.2016 at 18:28

EU4 is so shit its not even a strategic game its just a paint the world game.

I think it's diplomacy requires a certain strategy, allying the right people and attacking at the right time.
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28.12.2016 - 07:51
Napísal RaulPB, 27.12.2016 at 13:08

I agree that this one time it was me trolling merry christmas tito!


Lol what a troll, christmas is still far.
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28.12.2016 - 10:09
Napísal Goblin, 21.12.2016 at 16:18

Balkan nations are like a couple of color blind assholes arguing about the color of the rainbow.

More like arguing about who is the best 3rd world country.
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28.12.2016 - 10:21
Napísal Zephyrusu, 28.12.2016 at 04:53

Napísal DeepFriedUnicorn, 23.12.2016 at 18:28

EU4 is so shit its not even a strategic game its just a paint the world game.

I think it's diplomacy requires a certain strategy, allying the right people and attacking at the right time.


I guess but the whole ally system sucks you can't talk to them or help them like real countries would.
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28.12.2016 - 10:36
Napísal RaulPB, 20.12.2016 at 17:25

While reading a bit through balkan's comments, it comes to mind this strange idea that no one really has the real facts about history (it seems like this due to everyone contradicting one another), so why arguing at all?

I was thinking the same while arguing in the Free Palestine thread. Every nation has fed its people their own facts for so long that it's impossible to tell what's really true and what's not. Partially true is the best you can get.

Napísal Oleg, 20.12.2016 at 15:13

if u could speak about history more, and less about politics, u would be more respected, even by me.... here u've got upvotes

There's less difference than you think. The writing of history is political and influenced by politics.

Napísal Helly, 20.12.2016 at 22:13

Ps is the jizya tax a choice?

Muslims payed Zak'aa and Non-Muslims payed Jizya. In the end, everyone payed taxes, like today.
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28.12.2016 - 14:45
Napísal The Tactician, 28.12.2016 at 10:36

I was thinking the same while arguing in the Free Palestine thread. Every nation has fed its people their own facts for so long that it's impossible to tell what's really true and what's not. Partially true is the best you can get.


False facts and prejudiced agitators are not rare anywhre, but there is diffrence between world view to facts. facts are a thing, it takes time to know what is wrong and what is right but it's possible to learn, debating in one way for example.

I was attacked for weeks for being Israeli and "zionist", i endhavoured to have healthy debate but unfortenly kingjim did'nt even bother to defend his claims and you chose to ignore most of our subjects, that way we never gonna learn anything right?

i hope it will go better next time you gonna flood this again.
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28.12.2016 - 23:17
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Napísal Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 14:45

Napísal The Tactician, 28.12.2016 at 10:36

I was thinking the same while arguing in the Free Palestine thread. Every nation has fed its people their own facts for so long that it's impossible to tell what's really true and what's not. Partially true is the best you can get.


False facts and prejudiced agitators are not rare anywhre, but there is diffrence between world view to facts. facts are a thing, it takes time to know what is wrong and what is right but it's possible to learn, debating in one way for example.

I was attacked for weeks for being Israeli and "zionist", i endhavoured to have healthy debate but unfortenly kingjim did'nt even bother to defend his claims and you chose to ignore most of our subjects, that way we never gonna learn anything right?

i hope it will go better next time you gonna flood this again.

Shut up zionist, stop taking palestinian lands and bombing innocent palestinian..you war crominal fag
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28.12.2016 - 23:25
Napísal Guest, 28.12.2016 at 23:17

Napísal Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 14:45

Napísal The Tactician, 28.12.2016 at 10:36

I was thinking the same while arguing in the Free Palestine thread. Every nation has fed its people their own facts for so long that it's impossible to tell what's really true and what's not. Partially true is the best you can get.


False facts and prejudiced agitators are not rare anywhre, but there is diffrence between world view to facts. facts are a thing, it takes time to know what is wrong and what is right but it's possible to learn, debating in one way for example.

I was attacked for weeks for being Israeli and "zionist", i endhavoured to have healthy debate but unfortenly kingjim did'nt even bother to defend his claims and you chose to ignore most of our subjects, that way we never gonna learn anything right?

i hope it will go better next time you gonna flood this again.

Shut up zionist, stop taking palestinian lands and bombing innocent palestinian..you war crominal fag

shut up coward
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28.12.2016 - 23:39
Napísal Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 14:45

Napísal The Tactician, 28.12.2016 at 10:36

I was thinking the same while arguing in the Free Palestine thread. Every nation has fed its people their own facts for so long that it's impossible to tell what's really true and what's not. Partially true is the best you can get.


False facts and prejudiced agitators are not rare anywhre, but there is diffrence between world view to facts. facts are a thing, it takes time to know what is wrong and what is right but it's possible to learn, debating in one way for example.

I was attacked for weeks for being Israeli and "zionist", i endhavoured to have healthy debate but unfortenly kingjim did'nt even bother to defend his claims and you chose to ignore most of our subjects, that way we never gonna learn anything right?

i hope it will go better next time you gonna flood this again.

Yes but with the number of false facts out there, being fed to each and every one of us, it is a difficult endeavor to find undisputed facts. Anyway, I looked back and didn't see any post I skipped except the last one with Netzer (I know who he really is, but just for the sake of it, let's call him Netzer) because he gave me a rather hostile and discouraging response. He thinks I'm chickening out of a debate just because I postponed my response. Well, sucks for him, because now I chose to not debate with him, but with you. If you want to bring up previous points by him that I didn't respond to then you are invited to.
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