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02.02.2019 - 11:07
Political Theory;

Military and the police force are not able to go on strike and are "Higher" than a citizen taking their civil service position in society.

The doctors, nurses, public transport and the teachers are also civil servants but are still able to to go on strike and can be exploited by the government, i.e wages and hours.

So. Teachers, doctors, nurses and public transport (All owned by the government, not considering a privately owned department) should not be allowed to go on strike... HOWEVER! they will all get paid a good amount (Of course depending on experience too) and have better hours, all agreed on by both their unions and the government.

For example, nurses get €30/hr and don't have to do 14 hours a night three times a week. the unions and the government agreed this is affordable. The nurses will not be able to to go on strike now because of this new law. If however, the government in the future tries to exploit the nurses by lowering the agreed wage, then another law will instantly take place to enable ALL civil servants to go on strike, putting the country on a stand still, literally.

This promotes stability and fairness in the county. That's my mindset with this theory, it's not to "Take away" Rights, it's to have stability.
In my country, the public transport went on strike, and the government caved in, now the teachers and the the nurses are currently doing it. All this is currently and obviously leading to a ripple effect of instability and frustration between the civil servants, the citizens and the government. While this idea aims to fix the anger and frustration by having stability.
Do you understand it? Will I go on further?

What's your view on it?
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02.02.2019 - 11:20
What country do you live in? Medical personnel and transportation are private businesses in the United states.
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02.02.2019 - 11:23
Ireland. They can be private if they want. But if its a national hospital that they work in, I believe this should apply to them.
If they are working for a private company then it doesn't.
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02.02.2019 - 12:55
Ok
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05.02.2019 - 08:23
 brianwl (Admin)
'Strike' is a legal action, under the 'rules' of the same government that contracts them. The more you look into the rules of strike action of civil servants, the more you realize it's just a dishonourable way of addressing an issue within the legal framework that uses 'honour' and 'dishonour' to determine who is violating a contract. It was concocted by the legal authors to so that they make money on both sides of a dispute.
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05.02.2019 - 09:38
Napísal Helly, 02.02.2019 at 11:20

What country do you live in? Medical personnel and transportation are private businesses in the United states.


Evidences of your societarian backwardness, which then transpires the ignorance we sometimes see.


As for the thread itself, all seems nice, but hardly 'doable'. Here in Portugal, nurses are on surgery strike, which is delaying lots of surgeries and possibly causing deaths. Thankfully we have the Civil Requisition juridical institute which enables the Government to trample over strikes.
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05.02.2019 - 10:46
Napísal Al Fappino, 05.02.2019 at 09:38

Napísal Helly, 02.02.2019 at 11:20

What country do you live in? Medical personnel and transportation are private businesses in the United states.


Evidences of your societarian backwardness, which then transpires the ignorance we sometimes see.


As for the thread itself, all seems nice, but hardly 'doable'. Here in Portugal, nurses are on surgery strike, which is delaying lots of surgeries and possibly causing deaths. Thankfully we have the Civil Requisition juridical institute which enables the Government to trample over strikes.

Hey your communism is showing. "Thankfully we have the Civil Requisition juridical institute which enables the Government to trample over strikes." What kind of tyrannical system steps on it's own people for it's own gain? Good thing we Americans are to stoopid for your op system.
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06.02.2019 - 17:46
Napísal Helly, 05.02.2019 at 10:46

Napísal Al Fappino, 05.02.2019 at 09:38

Napísal Helly, 02.02.2019 at 11:20

What country do you live in? Medical personnel and transportation are private businesses in the United states.


Evidences of your societarian backwardness, which then transpires the ignorance we sometimes see.


As for the thread itself, all seems nice, but hardly 'doable'. Here in Portugal, nurses are on surgery strike, which is delaying lots of surgeries and possibly causing deaths. Thankfully we have the Civil Requisition juridical institute which enables the Government to trample over strikes.

Hey your communism is showing. "Thankfully we have the Civil Requisition juridical institute which enables the Government to trample over strikes." What kind of tyrannical system steps on it's own people for it's own gain? Good thing we Americans are to stoopid for your op system.


It's no communism. Though our country, given our Constitution of 1976 and the left-leans we have that have become chronical (hence why its harder for a center-right government to rule here in Portugal), the civil requisition juridical institute is basically an evidence of a "Raison d'état" or an attitude of governance under the national interest or public interest, that demands that public sector be requisitioned into work. It's no tyrannical system because every freedom is not unlimited and must always come with a price that compresses it. The degree of how liberty and freedom is compressed is what's relevant, hence the need for such an institute. People are not sovereign when it comes to self-governing to its fullness. For example, you can't self-govern yourself in fiscal and tax issues, with a good reason xd
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07.02.2019 - 21:10
Civil servants should have the right to strike just as any private sector worker
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08.02.2019 - 10:40
Napísal Cpt.Magic, 07.02.2019 at 21:10

Civil servants should have the right to strike just as any private sector worker


They should have the right to strike on the same grounds as any private sector worker (principle of equality at stake) but given their particularities and who they serve, and what's the purpose of their work, the right to strike should be compressed and should not collide with other principles such as a right to health, to life and even public interest - Hence in Portugal the "Civil Requisition"
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08.02.2019 - 13:38
Napísal Cpt.Magic, 07.02.2019 at 21:10

Civil servants should have the right to strike just as any private sector worker


Not the army or the police however
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10.02.2019 - 02:26
Napísal DeepFriedUnicorn, 02.02.2019 at 11:07

Political Theory;

Military and the police force are not able to go on strike and are "Higher" than a citizen taking their civil service position in society.

The doctors, nurses, public transport and the teachers are also civil servants but are still able to to go on strike and can be exploited by the government, i.e wages and hours.

So. Teachers, doctors, nurses and public transport (All owned by the government, not considering a privately owned department) should not be allowed to go on strike... HOWEVER! they will all get paid a good amount (Of course depending on experience too) and have better hours, all agreed on by both their unions and the government.

For example, nurses get €30/hr and don't have to do 14 hours a night three times a week. the unions and the government agreed this is affordable. The nurses will not be able to to go on strike now because of this new law. If however, the government in the future tries to exploit the nurses by lowering the agreed wage, then another law will instantly take place to enable ALL civil servants to go on strike, putting the country on a stand still, literally.

This promotes stability and fairness in the county. That's my mindset with this theory, it's not to "Take away" Rights, it's to have stability.
In my country, the public transport went on strike, and the government caved in, now the teachers and the the nurses are currently doing it. All this is currently and obviously leading to a ripple effect of instability and frustration between the civil servants, the citizens and the government. While this idea aims to fix the anger and frustration by having stability.
Do you understand it? Will I go on further?

What's your view on it?


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