That Lovely Teapot

The question of the existence of God has been debated for millennia. One philosopher had an interesting take on the problem.

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes.
But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.
If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."
- Bertrand Russell, written 1952

Discuss and debate.

Debate exactly what? if we agree or disagree with the statement?

only a religious extremist would disagree with it, and religious extremists are really good at making stuff up.

God =/= teapot

And the award for most autistic topic goes to

Napísal International, 23.11.2014 at 02:09

If, however, the existence of such a teapot 'money' were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist authorities in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."
- Bertrand Russell, written 1952

Discuss and debate.

That 'In God We Trust' is found on the u.s. dollar, and there's not a lot of people who seem to want to move away from a monetary system, i have to conclude that the tea-pot is alive and well.

Napísal Skanderbeg, 23.11.2014 at 11:12

Napísal International, 23.11.2014 at 02:09

The question of the existence of God has been debated for millennia. One philosopher had an interesting take on the problem.

Who said existence of God is problem?

There is no logic in that, giver of life cant be the problem, but reciever can because: free will & weak character as result of inability to be constructed firmly through childhood and early adult age.

You alone need to research and find proof, as we are unable to work as a collective, one will always undermine progress and sabotage along the way.

I will give you help, where to start your quest, science works in favor of existence of God, you just have to study and see, you cant finish 2 elementary grades and prove something:

1) Earth's magnet is electric, electric magnet need someone to turn it on [Natural magnets doesnt need external power to be turned on]. Who turned it on? remember that says in the Bible God created earth, couldnt be he created and turn on electical magnet to protect the earth from space radiation?
2) Top of many mountains are covered with rocks from seas and oceans, bible says there was a great flood. Coincence?
3) Mountain layers are pressured on each other like pancakes, can billion of years make such pressure? In the other hand, we know water can make pressure, could it be great flood water pressurized those layers?
4) Salinity in our water is growing 4.4% every year, that mean in less then 10,000 years our oceans would be 100% salt, why arent they if planet is old 3 billion years? Bible say planet is young 5700, and if you calculate, 4.4% match with planet age[if salinity started to grow in year 1]
5) Granite rock, have Polonium in it, science tells Polonium deplete very fast, rapidly, it takes 3 minutes to deplete only, but evolution tell granite was made in million year process. How could granite be created in million of years when polonium deplete in 3 minutes? Then it wont be granite but something else. And again, bible have answer, it says Maker created planet in 1 day, which mean granite was created in that day for less then 3 minutes. Coincidence?
6) Human foot found near dinosaur fossil, proof they lived in same time
7) DNA extraction from dinosaur, proof they lived before less than 10,000 years, if they lived before 60 million, we wouldnt be able to extract dna.
8) Science discovered homo erectus and homo neanderthals were ordinary humans, just with bones problem so they didnt walk straight. Apparently evolution used their illness to prove they were different race and species.
9) Scientist discovered 4m tall skeletons of humans, and we can see in bible that says people were taller back then, heavier and stronger. Scientist answer to this is high atmospheric pressure that comes from greenhouse effect of 2 waters[bible tells there was water above sky, when Maker made sky to cut water].
10) Atmospheric pressure with good genes of course give healthier and longer life, bible tells humans in the past before great flood lived 900 years, so that is true if everything else is true confirmed by science.
11) Scientist calculated that human life cannot be shorter than 80 years[average], they calculated genes of course, they didnt added city pollution, wars, hunger, malnutrition and other stuff made by humans. There is no way genes can combine that way for human to live bellow 80 years, so we can use it as an answer why reducing life stopped after it started to fall from 900 to 80.

Its all science, anyone can test it. God after all said dont believe in me but know me. Thats why we have people who know him and believers[group so discriminated against and harassed]. You wont see atheist and extremist attacking people who know, but only believers. Test it yourself.

Just before I begin, no I dont want to get into a huge discussion on religion or politics etc.; however, I do want to discuss some of the points you made and how I see that they can be discredited towards religion. I myself do not lean fully towards religion or fully towards a secular life. I won't be hitting every point you make as I just don't know enough about it to give good talking points. Anyway the points as I number them will go along with the number that is before the point in your post:

2. The Himalayas were formed by the pressing together of tectonic plates in Asia. These plates pushing on one another pushed the mountains upwards over many many years which is why they are so tall as the plates are being pressed together. That being said, the tops of the mountains were once on the ground, before the tectonic plates were being pushed together, therefore the tops should have rocks from the oceans as it was once on the ground.
3. To me, this point is more speculation, just because it's possible doesn't mean it's true.
4. Salt can be taken out of the ocean. For example, there are hot vents I think they are called. Here water is pushed down where it is heated and actually evaporates, the salt is left behind. As the water vapor wises it condenses and is shot out of the hot vents.
6. Please show me an article or the name of this discovery please so I can look at it myself

I don't mean to say anything bad towards your beliefs and I hope nothing is taken personally in this. I just thought I would bring up just from my knowledge some discrepancies in this.

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