Operation Storm 1995. - FREEDOM OF CROATIA
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Since Tito made a FULL LIE thread about Croatia and Croatian Independence War, I just need to say the truth!
It is obvious that he wants, as every Serb, to make victims (Croatia) look as aggressors (Serbia). Also, you Serbians are already known as population whose national history is plagiarism.
You can change your already fake history facts, but you cannot change Croatian history, especially not by your liefull thread on atWar.
About Tito's (Jedi's) first lie:
Jedi: 'Croatian volunteer rebel army and fascist militia, supported by American Air Force invaded Serbian Republic and ethnically cleansed 250,000 Serbs. The operation was called 'Storm'.'
....Only true thing in your sentence is that operation was called 'Storm'.
NOW THE TRUTH
• What was really Operation Storm?
Operation Storm was a large-scale military operation in which the Croatian army and police (not Croatian rebels and fascist militia as Tito said) liberated the occupied territories under the control of the rebel Serbs, on which was established para-state Republic of Serbian Krajina WITHOUT any international recognition !!!
The operation on this day, 4.8.1995. and has returned to Croatian constitutional and legal system all the occupied territory except Eastern Slavonia. Operation Storm with Operation Flash were key actions that led to the end of the war.
The operation Storm freed 10,400 square kilometers, or 18.4% of total Croatian territory which was occupied by Serbian rebels from Croatia, JNA army (read Serbian army) and other Chetnik and Serbian rebel groups.
IMPORTANT:
By Operation Storm, Croatian army and police stopped sure genocide in Bihać (Bosnia and Herzegovina) that was planned by Serbian rebels and army who had already occupied Bihać.
Need to be mentioned, Serbians made big holocausts over the whole Balkans (Vukovar, Srebrenica, Sarajevo, many others...)
Casualties after Operation Storm that freed Croatia from Serbian rebels:
Croatia - 174 soldiers died, 1100 wounded
Serbia - 410 soldiers died - by HRW (International statistical organisation) and Seriban statistical organisation are saying much bigger number (expected, but it is exaggerating)
Also, during Operation there were collateral victims (as in every army operation). Number of Serbian collateral victims is: 116 by HRW (and 1200 by Serbian statistics - Here you can see how they are forcing those numbers to be bigger)
Operation Storm was the most famous and largest operation of the Croatian Army and one of the symbols of the Croatian Independence War. Although it didnt freed the whole country, Storm is calculated as the end of the war in Croatia, while in Bosnia and Herzegovina it played a key role in releasing Bihać 'pocket'. It has changed the strategic balance of power in the entire territory of the warring in which the Croatian army proved to be a superior military force.
Probably the most important result is defeating the crazy concept of a Greater Serbia on Croatian territory and creating conditions for ending the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
• About 250 000 evacuated Serbs!!!
Despite constant calls of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to citizens of Serbian nationality to stay in Croatia, which guarantees them full citizenship (!!!!) , the largest number of Serbs at the request of his military and political leadership left Croatia in cars and tractors.
The order on the evacuation of Serbs from was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic (!!!!).
Number of Serb refugees is assessed differently: Croatian sources say the figure of 90,000 people, the UN about 150,000, and the Serbian 200.000-250.000 (Incredibly pumped number again).
About the organized evacuation testified one of the Croatian Serb rebel leader Milan Babic on May 9, 1995.
Here is statement of that Serbian rebel (!!!!) :
'For me, it seemed astonishing to hear that the Main Staff of the RSK army and President Mile Martić ordered a general evacuation of the Serbian population and the withdrawal of the army on all fronts lines in Knin, Northern Dalmatia and Lika, although on most lines of contact with the Army were not expressed serious combat and the Army is under the previous plan, and should be able to keep the approaches to Knin at least a month in which there were all the necessary conditions'.
To prove all of this, I have Serbian document about evacuation which was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic:
• Copied message of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to all Serbian citizens of Croatia:
'Croatian citizens of Serbian nationality from the occupied territories of Knin, Gracac, Lapac, Korenica, Slunj, Glina, Dvor and Petrinja:
Since the failure of all previous attempts, including yesterday's negotiations in Geneva, and the Croatian authorities and the international community for the peaceful reintegration of the Croatian occupied territories; As the originators of the rebellion in Croatia, Martic and others., Instead of responding to the call for peaceful reintegration, continue the war against the Croatian state, and along with the ringleaders of rebellion in Bosnia, Karadzic and others., Forge new plans for conquest to conquest common safe area of Bihac, what Croatia can not afford; As the Croatian and Bosnian Serbs not only to prevent the return of refugees, but also continue with the persecution of non-Serbs; Since the Serbian extremists from the beginning of rebellion and now, call for help remains of Italian fascism, offering a division of Croatian territory between the Italian and Serbian imperialism; Since rambunctious paramilitary Serbian troops, and still commit terrorist attacks on the civilian population from Slavonia to Dalmatia, Croatia shelled areas and cities of Otocac, Gospic, Karlovac, even while in Geneva with Croatian delegation lead political discussions on the peaceful reintegration, again bombarded and the area of Dubrovnik where they dropped a new human victims; And since all the attempts, the Croatian state and the international community to revolt alienated parts of Croatian territory to be peacefully returned under Croatian sovereignty were abandoned and cheated, Croatia is a country forced to take the military steps to activate the aforementioned occupied territories in its constitutional and legal system.
We are forced to such a decision so that, after four years of futile negotiations put an end to the further playing the Croatian and international public and to ensure the beginning of the return of displaced persons to their homes. Therefore, on behalf of the Croatian democratic government: I call on members of Serbian paramilitary units, who have voluntarily or forcibly mobilized in paramilitary Serbian troops to surrender their weapons to the Croatian authorities with a guarantee that they will be bestowed amnesty under Croatian laws. I call on the initiators of the rebellion to realize the futility of their venture and its harmfulness for the Serbian community in Croatia, if they persist in rebellion, to surrender to Croatian authorities and accept forgiveness and a fair trial for their transgressions. I invite the Croatian citizens of Serbian nationality who have not actively participated in the revolt, to remain in their homes, and without fear for their lives and their property, welcome the Croatian authorities, with the guarantee that they will be given full citizenship rights and allow elections for the local government to Croatian Constitution and Constitutional Law in the presence of international observers.
I invite the representatives of Serbia and Montenegro (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and their) to stop supporting extremists from the occupied Croatian territory, which was evident at yesterday's Geneva talks in which he participated and the Yugoslav Charge d'Affaires when Croatian Serbs refused to accept the peaceful reintegration of the occupied territories. That would be a first step towards a general solution to the Croatian-Serbian relations on the whole interest-space two adjacent nations, and the normalization of relations on the basis of international recognition. We are determined to end the suffering and uncertainty of Croatian refugees from the occupied territories, and that the Croatian Serbs, guaranteed human and ethnic rights in the constitutional and legal order of the Croatian Democratic.'
• Serbian revenges for after losing a war:
Note: THIS IS INCOMPLETE LIST !
Serbian rebels did incredibly many revenges on civil things during whole war, but those ones are after they realized that war is over and that their dark plan is down:
4th of August:
The rebel Croatian Serbs attacked civilian targets in Sisak, Sibenik, Otocac, Gospic, Ogulin.
5th of August:
Bosnian Serbs rocketed the hope. Serbs from eastern Herzegovina shelled the Dubrovnik area. The rebel Croatian Serbs from the occupied Croatian Danube rocketed the Osijek, Vinkovci and Nuštar. The rebel Croatian Serbs from Kordun stoned Karlovac. Many religious objects were shot.
6th of August:
Serbian air force planes from BiH in Banja Luka attacked several Croatian towns, where they killed two and injured 11 people. While the Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina aircraft rocketed Mačkovac and Savski Bok, Croatian air defense collapsed their two aircraft.
Also, this has to be mentioned so you know the difference between Croatians and Serbians, during Operation Storm Croatian forces havent destroyed any religious (Orthodox) facility, while Serbian forces destroyed 1450 Croatian churches and 1100 Bosnian mosques
• World army experts and veterans about Operation Strom:
I am not going to copy all the words of them, but they are marking it as one of the one of the most professional worked military actions in 20th century with minimal civilian losses !!!
• Croatian generals from Operation Storm:
All Croatian generals from Operation Storm who were in The Hague tribunal were acquitted of any charges and released.
It was the legal confirmation that Operation Storm was done on the most proffessional level.
Whatsmore, Croatian forces are not fascist, I please Tito to stop talking crap, but really. Those amount of lies are starting to be fucking annoying.
For last, some pictures about humantiy and proffesionalism of Croatian soldiers and about their happiness for finally having their free and independent country:
Helping old people
A little kid with his father on airport before he gone in the Operation Storm
Croatian soldier praying in the church that was devastated by Serbian rebels
Croatian soldier saving a kid from granades
It is obvious that he wants, as every Serb, to make victims (Croatia) look as aggressors (Serbia). Also, you Serbians are already known as population whose national history is plagiarism.
You can change your already fake history facts, but you cannot change Croatian history, especially not by your liefull thread on atWar.
About Tito's (Jedi's) first lie:
Jedi: 'Croatian volunteer rebel army and fascist militia, supported by American Air Force invaded Serbian Republic and ethnically cleansed 250,000 Serbs. The operation was called 'Storm'.'
....Only true thing in your sentence is that operation was called 'Storm'.
NOW THE TRUTH
• What was really Operation Storm?
Operation Storm was a large-scale military operation in which the Croatian army and police (not Croatian rebels and fascist militia as Tito said) liberated the occupied territories under the control of the rebel Serbs, on which was established para-state Republic of Serbian Krajina WITHOUT any international recognition !!!
The operation on this day, 4.8.1995. and has returned to Croatian constitutional and legal system all the occupied territory except Eastern Slavonia. Operation Storm with Operation Flash were key actions that led to the end of the war.
The operation Storm freed 10,400 square kilometers, or 18.4% of total Croatian territory which was occupied by Serbian rebels from Croatia, JNA army (read Serbian army) and other Chetnik and Serbian rebel groups.
IMPORTANT:
By Operation Storm, Croatian army and police stopped sure genocide in Bihać (Bosnia and Herzegovina) that was planned by Serbian rebels and army who had already occupied Bihać.
Need to be mentioned, Serbians made big holocausts over the whole Balkans (Vukovar, Srebrenica, Sarajevo, many others...)
Casualties after Operation Storm that freed Croatia from Serbian rebels:
Croatia - 174 soldiers died, 1100 wounded
Serbia - 410 soldiers died - by HRW (International statistical organisation) and Seriban statistical organisation are saying much bigger number (expected, but it is exaggerating)
Also, during Operation there were collateral victims (as in every army operation). Number of Serbian collateral victims is: 116 by HRW (and 1200 by Serbian statistics - Here you can see how they are forcing those numbers to be bigger)
Operation Storm was the most famous and largest operation of the Croatian Army and one of the symbols of the Croatian Independence War. Although it didnt freed the whole country, Storm is calculated as the end of the war in Croatia, while in Bosnia and Herzegovina it played a key role in releasing Bihać 'pocket'. It has changed the strategic balance of power in the entire territory of the warring in which the Croatian army proved to be a superior military force.
Probably the most important result is defeating the crazy concept of a Greater Serbia on Croatian territory and creating conditions for ending the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
• About 250 000 evacuated Serbs!!!
Despite constant calls of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to citizens of Serbian nationality to stay in Croatia, which guarantees them full citizenship (!!!!) , the largest number of Serbs at the request of his military and political leadership left Croatia in cars and tractors.
The order on the evacuation of Serbs from was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic (!!!!).
Number of Serb refugees is assessed differently: Croatian sources say the figure of 90,000 people, the UN about 150,000, and the Serbian 200.000-250.000 (Incredibly pumped number again).
About the organized evacuation testified one of the Croatian Serb rebel leader Milan Babic on May 9, 1995.
Here is statement of that Serbian rebel (!!!!) :
'For me, it seemed astonishing to hear that the Main Staff of the RSK army and President Mile Martić ordered a general evacuation of the Serbian population and the withdrawal of the army on all fronts lines in Knin, Northern Dalmatia and Lika, although on most lines of contact with the Army were not expressed serious combat and the Army is under the previous plan, and should be able to keep the approaches to Knin at least a month in which there were all the necessary conditions'.
To prove all of this, I have Serbian document about evacuation which was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic:
• Copied message of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to all Serbian citizens of Croatia:
'Croatian citizens of Serbian nationality from the occupied territories of Knin, Gracac, Lapac, Korenica, Slunj, Glina, Dvor and Petrinja:
Since the failure of all previous attempts, including yesterday's negotiations in Geneva, and the Croatian authorities and the international community for the peaceful reintegration of the Croatian occupied territories; As the originators of the rebellion in Croatia, Martic and others., Instead of responding to the call for peaceful reintegration, continue the war against the Croatian state, and along with the ringleaders of rebellion in Bosnia, Karadzic and others., Forge new plans for conquest to conquest common safe area of Bihac, what Croatia can not afford; As the Croatian and Bosnian Serbs not only to prevent the return of refugees, but also continue with the persecution of non-Serbs; Since the Serbian extremists from the beginning of rebellion and now, call for help remains of Italian fascism, offering a division of Croatian territory between the Italian and Serbian imperialism; Since rambunctious paramilitary Serbian troops, and still commit terrorist attacks on the civilian population from Slavonia to Dalmatia, Croatia shelled areas and cities of Otocac, Gospic, Karlovac, even while in Geneva with Croatian delegation lead political discussions on the peaceful reintegration, again bombarded and the area of Dubrovnik where they dropped a new human victims; And since all the attempts, the Croatian state and the international community to revolt alienated parts of Croatian territory to be peacefully returned under Croatian sovereignty were abandoned and cheated, Croatia is a country forced to take the military steps to activate the aforementioned occupied territories in its constitutional and legal system.
We are forced to such a decision so that, after four years of futile negotiations put an end to the further playing the Croatian and international public and to ensure the beginning of the return of displaced persons to their homes. Therefore, on behalf of the Croatian democratic government: I call on members of Serbian paramilitary units, who have voluntarily or forcibly mobilized in paramilitary Serbian troops to surrender their weapons to the Croatian authorities with a guarantee that they will be bestowed amnesty under Croatian laws. I call on the initiators of the rebellion to realize the futility of their venture and its harmfulness for the Serbian community in Croatia, if they persist in rebellion, to surrender to Croatian authorities and accept forgiveness and a fair trial for their transgressions. I invite the Croatian citizens of Serbian nationality who have not actively participated in the revolt, to remain in their homes, and without fear for their lives and their property, welcome the Croatian authorities, with the guarantee that they will be given full citizenship rights and allow elections for the local government to Croatian Constitution and Constitutional Law in the presence of international observers.
I invite the representatives of Serbia and Montenegro (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and their) to stop supporting extremists from the occupied Croatian territory, which was evident at yesterday's Geneva talks in which he participated and the Yugoslav Charge d'Affaires when Croatian Serbs refused to accept the peaceful reintegration of the occupied territories. That would be a first step towards a general solution to the Croatian-Serbian relations on the whole interest-space two adjacent nations, and the normalization of relations on the basis of international recognition. We are determined to end the suffering and uncertainty of Croatian refugees from the occupied territories, and that the Croatian Serbs, guaranteed human and ethnic rights in the constitutional and legal order of the Croatian Democratic.'
• Serbian revenges for after losing a war:
Note: THIS IS INCOMPLETE LIST !
Serbian rebels did incredibly many revenges on civil things during whole war, but those ones are after they realized that war is over and that their dark plan is down:
4th of August:
The rebel Croatian Serbs attacked civilian targets in Sisak, Sibenik, Otocac, Gospic, Ogulin.
5th of August:
Bosnian Serbs rocketed the hope. Serbs from eastern Herzegovina shelled the Dubrovnik area. The rebel Croatian Serbs from the occupied Croatian Danube rocketed the Osijek, Vinkovci and Nuštar. The rebel Croatian Serbs from Kordun stoned Karlovac. Many religious objects were shot.
6th of August:
Serbian air force planes from BiH in Banja Luka attacked several Croatian towns, where they killed two and injured 11 people. While the Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina aircraft rocketed Mačkovac and Savski Bok, Croatian air defense collapsed their two aircraft.
Also, this has to be mentioned so you know the difference between Croatians and Serbians, during Operation Storm Croatian forces havent destroyed any religious (Orthodox) facility, while Serbian forces destroyed 1450 Croatian churches and 1100 Bosnian mosques
• World army experts and veterans about Operation Strom:
I am not going to copy all the words of them, but they are marking it as one of the one of the most professional worked military actions in 20th century with minimal civilian losses !!!
• Croatian generals from Operation Storm:
All Croatian generals from Operation Storm who were in The Hague tribunal were acquitted of any charges and released.
It was the legal confirmation that Operation Storm was done on the most proffessional level.
Whatsmore, Croatian forces are not fascist, I please Tito to stop talking crap, but really. Those amount of lies are starting to be fucking annoying.
For last, some pictures about humantiy and proffesionalism of Croatian soldiers and about their happiness for finally having their free and independent country:
Helping old people
A little kid with his father on airport before he gone in the Operation Storm
Croatian soldier praying in the church that was devastated by Serbian rebels
Croatian soldier saving a kid from granades
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Explain why would he have some kind of retardation? Guy is pointin out the most objective side of the story and I will explain it a little bit detailed. Firstly, I would call myself retarded if I would believe to the numbers of Serbian historicals either if I would believe to Croatian ones. Serbian pumped that number fucking incredibly so they say there were between 700 000 - 1 500 000 victims. It is nothing than myth because in Independent State of Croatia lived 1 800 000 people of Serbian nationality, mostly on the land of todays Bosnia and Herzegovina. It would mean that there were killed in one between 40%-85% of total Serbian population who lived in Independent State of Croatia. It is nothing than fake propaganda to make bad thing look even more bad. Same is with Croatian statistics who are saying the number of 20 000 and less. Also bullshit. Real number, according to the newest and independent proven statistics (not the only ones who are saying this is the most beliveable number, ypu can check everywhere), is number of 45 000 - 53 000 Serbians. If that shame thing happened, especially to your nation, please dont make it look like joke with some fantastic numbers. Only thing you are doing with that is spitting on dead ppl. Peace for all who lost their lives in that shameful camp
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If we cut of whole Slavonija from the Idependent State of Croatia and then say that in that state we say over 50k Serbs died there, then I fully agree with that
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I called you Tito cause everyone else called u Tito and i know that name. I didn't call Oluja 1995. Croat cause i didnt bother to look at former names its was easier to copy and paste.
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He is finally shameful because he wore the name of the 10th most massive killer in 20th century .
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Dat logic...
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Fuck it, Its not worth to blink to the blind people, niether whisper to deaf ones because clowns will stay clowns.
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Haha, i had bunch of clans and names, at once clan was renamed to fascist croatian ZNG name, remember when you begged me to join? Does that make me fascist? You are really sad little being if you think having fun on internet game and changing names for fun with friends is serious openly expression of political ideology. We are not like you with fascist avatar and nationalistic name for years and openly expressing our real life political ideologies and views.
---- If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
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Wow, someone is really frustrated.... is that beacuse Goblin upvotes me? Xa
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WOW  C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-CCCCCCCCCCCCCOMBO BREAKER!!! Goblin man you are like Cartoon Network... used to be fun, what happened with you man 
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The nationalism in these threads is too damn high. But what annoys me the most is that 13 people upvoted the op and at least half of them i know for a fact, they know SHIT about the subject and shit about balkan wars and history. But they still upvoted. Just because its Tito doesnt mean you get to pick the opposite side automatically, not in a historical debate atleast. That being said, i would be stupid to ever get in the middle of a Serbo-Croat war. I prefer to stay neutral. What i can say with my probably limited knowledge on the matter, is that both sides are guilty of attrocities and crimes against humanities. Balkans are not a game, they are chaotic, ruthless, bloodthirsty and unforgiving. Serbia has been kind of a bully though, i will admit this. A generalization from what ive read is that it just couldnt let Croatia be, kept poking and stepping on it. But and this is a big but, Serbia has been a victim and since the West doesnt give a fuck about us, we living in the Balkans, should. Serbia was under Ottoman rule for 500 years and we need to understand this. This can fuck up a whole country and leaves scars that arent easily healed, trust me i know. Croatia never got this type of pain and suffering, living under kebabs is hell it self. So i would suggest, Croatians cut Serbians some slack, they been through so much. And Serbians to stop the hate and back off. We have bigger enemies upfront. And they are inside now and you idiots are fighting among yourselves. They are called muslims. Turkalbans and bosniaks, literally Turkey, are still inside Balkans, gaining territory (kosovo) and instead of fighting them, you fight with yourselves. So course of action by wise Khal : 1. Stop fighting and give hands 2. Remove kebabs from balkans - Albania/ Bosnia (use any force necessary) 3. Once balkans belong to us again, we need to stop being protectorates of the West and claim our lands again. Work on our economy and make new deals with the east. 4. gg 5. i woke up
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