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Napísané Helly, 11.12.2015 - 02:22
Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do." Translation from the Noble Quran

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad narrated - hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion...".

Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. (See below). The Quran thus sanctions violence as a means of coercing religion.

Qur'an (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" In conjunction with the preceding passage, this confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Quran (9:56-57) - "And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste." This refers to people living with the Muslim tribe who may not be true believers, but must pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?
Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase here is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."

Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" But didn't the earlier verse (2:256) state that there is "no compulsion in religion"? This contradiction is resolved by abrogation - where the later verse supersedes the earlier one.


Fight me I dare you to look so foolish as to say islam is a religion of peace one more time you fuck boys. Look what they did to persia, look what they did to egypt, look what they did to the byzantine empire, look what they do to Isreal from the beginning of record keeping. Islam is a religion of force by the sword. Why else can't there be churches in suadi arabia but heaven forbid they ban mosques in Dearborn. Your religion of peace is only peaceful if your in the minority. It is your duty to spread islam it is yoyr duty to fight the none belivers and it is now my duty to defeat you as my ancestors did when you tried to conquer europe. Anyone who can look into history knows the true colors of the religion of peace.
17.12.2015 - 09:31
The bible is pretty violent... are Christians not peaceful?

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17.12.2015 - 11:02
Napísal Phoenix, 17.12.2015 at 09:31

The bible is pretty violent... are Christians not peaceful?

any violent passages in the bible are found in the Old Testament, which, as I've said before, is not taken literally by Christians
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17.12.2015 - 12:51
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Napísal Viruslegion, 17.12.2015 at 11:02

any violent passages in the bible are found in the Old Testament, which, as I've said before, is not taken literally by Christians


Not only that, but the overwhelming majority of Christians believe that the Bible was written by men inspired by God. The overwhelming majority of Muslims believe the Quran is the literal and final word of Allah verbatim
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The church is near, but the road is icy... the bar is far away, but I will walk carefully...
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17.12.2015 - 23:23
Napísal Viruslegion, 17.12.2015 at 11:02

Napísal Phoenix, 17.12.2015 at 09:31

The bible is pretty violent... are Christians not peaceful?

any violent passages in the bible are found in the Old Testament, which, as I've said before, is not taken literally by Christians

Jesus died so that God would not punish people as He did in the Old Testament. Jesus was the Ultimate Sacrifice that allows God to forgive people, despite the great wickedness that has been bestowed upon us by modern society.
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